Question:
Does this article change or reinforce your views on the death penalty?
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2014-05-23 14:59:29 UTC
http://news.sciencemag.org/social-sciences/2014/04/more-4-death-row-inmates-may-be-innocent

If we're at least potentially executing innocent people...
Eleven answers:
Susan S
2014-05-23 20:07:04 UTC
The number of wrongly convicted people sentenced to death and exonerated..before it was too late..is now 144.



The system can make tragic mistakes. We’ll never know for sure how many people have been executed for crimes they didn’t commit. DNA is rarely available in homicides, often irrelevant and can’t guarantee we won’t execute innocent people.



There are other reasons to end the death penalty:

The death penalty is no more effective than life sentences as a deterrent, its costs dwarf those in cases where the death penalty isn't sought and, in spite of attempts to make it less arbitrary who gets it depends more on geography, economic status and the race of the victim than it does on the heinousness of the crime. The death penalty process subjects families of murder victims to prolonged and unavoidable damage and makes promises to them that it cannot keep.



Worst of all, and in our name, it risks taking the life of someone for a crime he didn't commit . We can lower this risk, but, no matter how hard we try, we can't make it go away.



It comes down to whether we should keep the death penalty for retribution or revenge in spite of its flaws and in spite of the huge toll it exacts on society.
dudleysharp
2014-05-24 08:42:20 UTC
Re enforced: Anti death penalty deceptions



To 40 at Science Magazine.



Re: "More Than 4% of Death Row Inmates May Be Innocent:, By Sarah C. P. Williams, Science Mag, Monday, April 28, 2014 - 3:15pm



From: Dudley sharp



The referenced article is absolute garbage (1).



Everyone in this debate knows that the Death Penalty Information Center's (DPIC) claims of "innocent" or "exonerated" are 70-83% in error (1).



This blatant deception began about 1998 and continues with the DPIC complete redefinitions of both "innocent" and "exonerated" (1).



The DPIC's definitions are so convoluted that none of those cases which they list as either "innocent" or 'exonerated" need any evidence for innocence to be on their "innocence" or "exonerated" list.



In fact, it is as if DPIC had redefined "lie" as "truth".



Please, fact check.



1) See 3 & 4



The Innocent Frauds: Standard Anti Death Penalty Strategy

http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-innocent-frauds-standard-anti-death.html
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2014-05-23 15:06:41 UTC
I'm against the death penalty, except in cases where people can not possibly by rehabilitated (sick animals basically). But with the way it's currently being done, and the number of innocent people found on death row, it should be abolished completely.
2014-05-23 15:14:33 UTC
Most murders get decades and endless chances to prove their innocence. Most murder victims never get a chance at anything. There are more guilty murderers wandering the streets than there are innocent people on death row and some are even famous for it. No system is perfect.
d/dx+d/dy+d/dz
2014-05-23 17:13:11 UTC
The death penalty is consistent with societal values. We allow the slaughter of babies (100% innocent). Why worry about the death penalty for people that are 96% guilty?
jayakrishnaathmavidya
2014-05-23 16:49:56 UTC
NGDCs .. I don't understand how acquittals / accused be an estimate of erroneous conviction .. but the article's intention as suggested in it to bring forward the need for more studies and researches in this field with various aspects of Death Sentences seems to have invoked some interest .. Personally Speaking I am against Death Sentence, but then it could even be a strong deterrent in preventing crimes .. Still cruder methods like cutting the various parts of body etc can be a still better deterrent .. But forced Penance for long terms can be a more Civilized one .. In Bhagavatham Lord Indra (The one among the so called Civil Lords) got convicted to do Penance for Long Time to give rise to "Nahusha Puranam", whereas the lesser civil ones, like demons like "Vritthasur" etc (Maybe a demon for Circular Logic of Round, Round with Karmic Balancing or Adjustment) got killed by Lord Indra, maybe for the offence of arguing hard for some kind of Circular Theory for Karmic Adjustments (Balancing) etc for Lord Indra's crime to kill "Viswaroop" (Natural Shape of the World probably been killed by Lord Indra to do some intended shape ..)



But then Puranas are past memories to find more evolved solutions to any problems too probably with further thoughts and researches to formulate the Resultant Intensities Within and Without for manifest with varying times and evolutions ..



Probably a more Civil Mechanism that could be used probably can be the convicts get "Hanged in Public Perception" and change their operations area where they can be better useful (even Penance) privately .. Maybe like a dummy been hanged, video taped and shown to Public as deterrent whereas the actual person been given tasks like Penance etc secretly ..



But then some solutions needs to be evolved for Governments to do something secretly away from Public Eye .. But then some may argue, that can lead to Terrorism / Dictatorship etc by the One at the helm if he turns out to be dishonest etc .. Maybe an area to further think about and researched into suiting the current times too probably ..



https://www.facebook.com/iMightLikeItDoNotMeanIagreeWithThat/posts/464778810322552
2014-05-23 15:04:51 UTC
This is for Jimmy:



Johnny Garrett of Texas was executed February, 1992, for allegedly raping and murdering a nun. In March, 2004, cold-case DNA testing identified Leoncio Rueda as the rapist and murderer of another elderly victim killed four months prior. Immediately following the nun's murder, prosecutors and police were certain the two cases were committed by the same assailant. In both cases, black curly head hairs were found on the victims, linked to Rueda. Previously unidentified fingerprints in the nun's room were matched to Rueda. The flawed case is explored in a 2008 documentary entitled The Last Word.
Miles from Michigan!!
2014-05-23 16:03:20 UTC
hasn't changed!! all are automatically give appeals after appeals!! if they make it to the day of execution, dozens of people don't see the innocents!!
jimmy
2014-05-23 15:00:45 UTC
that is an age old claim that has never actually been proven in modern times..if you have evidence that an innocent person has been executed, provide it!..do NOT just claim that you have questions about their guilt!
2014-05-24 19:00:23 UTC
We need high standards of evidence in death penalty cases.
2014-05-23 15:06:46 UTC
1 IN 25. Not bad odds. Nobody is perfect.


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