Question:
when I say I love America, but hate the American government, am I unpatriotic?
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:21:53 UTC
I don't think those who desent aginst the Iraq war are unpatriotic.
39 answers:
?
2007-10-17 14:44:29 UTC
Um...yes, you are, to a degree.



The United States of America *IS* in large part, it's government (or lack thereof).



It's been said that the government is best which governs least.



A nation is "loved" for many reasons...locale, terrain, environment...and culture. Culture is impacted greatly by government. Economy is affected greatly by government.



So...if you mean that you love the American culture, then you love the government of the people, by the people, and for the people, because our liberty (which is part of our governmental framework) has allowed many types of people to come to the US and prosper.



Which part of American government do you hate?



ADDITION: For Michaelsan...by the way...Thomas Jefferson *NEVER* said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."



*NEVER* said it...never said anything like it. Lots of Libs think that he did, though.





Best tighten up your political baseline, Michael
poolplayer
2007-10-11 20:04:19 UTC
No, not unpatriotic. But don't waste your energy "HATING" the government. Work towards repairing it.



I don't think many of the war desenters are unpatriotic either. There are good reasons for not being there. But we are. Now it's a matter of finding a way to end our involvement there in a manner that we can hold our heads up, not with our tails between our legs. How many feel good about the way we left Vietnam?
The emperor has no clothes
2007-10-09 17:40:19 UTC
Your first sentence, no. Although 'hate' is a strong word, I disagree with much that our government does, especially when they steal money from my pocket or undermine the public interest as they tried to do recently by granting amnesty to illegal aliens.



As to your second sentence, it's fine not to agree with the war, but the thing is, the debate has been over for years. We're there now and the ONLY option is to complete what we started. Anything less is an abuse of the Iraqi people..we went in, destroyed their physical infrastructure and removed their government. Now some in America want to simply leave? Bad move.



But when the 'dissent' ends up encouraging and emboldening our enemies to the point that it results directly in the increase in death and injury to our forces in the area, THAT is unpatriotic. While I understand that those on the democratic side of aisle want to leave Iraq, their methods are exasperating the situation in Iraq by giving heart to our enemies. "If we hold out a little longer, kill a few more, the Americans will leave." That's simple human nature. If the mullahs were preaching peace and submission to the Iraqi authority, would you be more likely to support the war? If they said, "If the Americans aren't gone in three months, we'll lay down our arms." do you think we'd hold out?



The answer to these questions is obvious and the affect of the liberal actions is equally obvious, particularly given the fact that their dissent comes with absolutely no better alternatives. Their alternative? Surrender. Brilliant. Really brilliant. Through out this war Democrats have done nothing but oppose the presidents efforts while offering absolutely no better alternative. NOT ONE. When you do that, your 'dissent' ceases to be dissent and becomes nothing more than self serving b1tching.
?
2016-10-06 13:50:50 UTC
Bush is an spectacular chief in this time of disaster. conflict on Iraq- Thumbs up. particular Suddam Hussein did not have nuclear weapons yet we are able to not take that probability. Suddam might in all likelihood replaced into look for vengeance after the gulf conflict and drop a mushroom on us. u.s. had nukes and whilst thay fell from ability there weapons have been unfolded in the process the middle east. Iran has nukes. Afganistan had al-Qaeda. Now katrina is a distinctive tale. you may pass that off and blame it on Bush yet we've been ib hurricanes contained in the previous and human beings didnt evacuate. ok it is all suited to not in common terms like the goverment, yet bush has achieved a sturdy job
stevemdfwtx
2007-10-09 17:50:16 UTC
Hating the current government is a grand American tradition. When Democrats are in the White House, you can bet Republicans hate the government while loving the country at the same time.



Dissenting against the decision to go to war is one thing. But I do believe that you should want your country to win a conflict once it gets into one. Hold your government responsible for its mistakes, but don't root for your own country's defeat.
anonymous
2007-10-09 21:10:03 UTC
When a person says their government is right or wrong, that is as American as a person can be.



Speaking out is what this country is about.



Not being one size fits all robots that is a basic communist ideal.



Anyone who condemns a person for speaking out against our government and calling them a traitor, is no better then a full fledge communist.



Of course you can love your country and hate your government. I love America, and have no respect for my government. I feel the government is failing the people and not living up to our ideals.



I got out, in part, because of that and moved to a country that is emerging from dictatorial rule into what we once were.



I find that very, very sad.



Peace



Jim



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mike r
2007-10-09 17:49:56 UTC
The American ruling establishment has become a dictatorship. A crypto dictatorship that is steadily baring it's fangs. In a few years it will be an in your face police state. The mask will come off. By then it won't be unusual for dissenters to simply disappear off the street. Rounded up by Home Land Security, to languish in a secret interrogation center. By 2010 freedom will have vanished from America. But it will be be for you're own good. To protect you from those shadowy forces that hate freedom. Sound familar?
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:34:21 UTC
I don't think so, but it really depends on how you go about it. If it's filled with lies and hate and nonsense, then yes, it is unpatriotic. If it's just a dislike of the current administration and the war, that's your prerogative as an American. (I'm a Republican, btw.)
michaelsan
2007-10-09 17:27:14 UTC
Not at all. Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence said "Dissent is the highest for of Patriotism." The Declaration also says we have every right to be angry with our government, and "when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them ( you and me ) under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government,..."



Fear not, for you are acting in the best traditions of this country. Often governments get out of control, as Bush has , and deserve public rebuke, satire and even hatred. It is your right, it is your duty to say so. The Iraq War, Torture, spying on US citizens, and many other actions of this administration have severely damaged this society at home and abroad and you are not alone in your opinion. Say what you feel with gusto, confident you have the blessing of men like Washington, Jefferson and Franklin. You are in good company when you do so.
themiserbuying4kids
2007-10-16 04:37:49 UTC
Hell no...I think you are most patriotic as our goverment in many ways treats us citizens as an enemy. The American Government has ceased to chimpion 'the people' and has become the arm of corporate america.



I hate the way Government screws the average citizens.
thehermanator2003
2007-10-09 17:32:05 UTC
No, you are exercising your right to free speech. As long as you don't promote the violent overthrow of the government, you're on pretty safe ground.

To not speak your mind, when the Constitution is being trampled on, is a lot worse than open dissent .
VeggieTart -- Let's Go Caps!
2007-10-09 17:47:40 UTC
Dissent is not unpatriotic. Saying you hate the government is a bit strong--I can only say I'm angry with them.



When Clinton said what he did, we didn't have a president intent on completely dismantling every safety net for anyone who isn't a CEO and lying us into a war that seems endless.



But there's something terribly wrong when we fear our government more than they fear us.
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:26:59 UTC
No. There's a difference between a country and its people and the people who run the country. To say you hate our government just means you're honest, it doesn't mean you're unpatriotic. Blind obedience to a government for the sake of a word renders the your actions and the word meaningless.
tangerine
2007-10-09 17:31:19 UTC
No, it's not at all unpatriotic. If we were meant to always agree with our leaders, our Founding Fathers would have made the US a dictatorship instead of a democracy.
Me
2007-10-09 17:31:13 UTC
I love the opportunities of America, but hate most of their politics and DESPISE the Idiot in the White House's war. However, I am pro democracy and pro people's choice. I don't consider myself un-patriotic, but don't consider myself patriotic. After all, what country in the world doesn't have some corruption and stupidity in control? :)
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:25:32 UTC
Legitimate dissent is not unpatriotic.



Sean Penn traveling to Iraq before the war and Columbia University inviting the President of Iran to speak, THAT is unpatriotic.
D squared
2007-10-09 19:30:32 UTC
You are very patriotic. Trivia question: who said " A great American dissents "?
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:40:10 UTC
Who said this:



"How dare you suggest that we, in the freest nation on earth, live in tyranny? How dare you call yourselves patriots and heroes? I say to you, all of you, there is nothing patriotic about hating your country or pretending that you can love your country but despise your government. There is nothing heroic about turning your back on America or ignoring your own responsibilities. If you want to preserve your own freedom, you must stand up for the freedom of others with whom you disagree, but you also must stand up for the rule of law. You cannot have one without other."



Answer:

President Clinton in a graduation speech at Michigan State University, Spartan Stadium, East Lansing, Michigan at 1:30pm on May the 5th of 1995.



Can't be any more clear than that. In your vitriol and hatred for President Bush you've allowed yourself to forget who won two elections which meant people voted for him. I was one of them. Both times. When you attack President Bush in the obscene and outrageous manner that you have you are also attacking anyone who voted for him. When you call Bush a murderer, you're calling everyone who voted for him in 2004 a murderer for allowing him to continue the war in Iraq (not too mention our troops who are the ones pulling the trigger). When you call him a terrorist, you're calling everyone who voted for him in 2004 a supporter of government sanctioned terrorism.



Yes. You are un-American. You apparently care nothing for elections or votes or the opinions of those you disagree with or free speech. Yet you use it all as a shield to protect yourself from criticism.



And don't give me this crap about what Bill Clinton went through. It was nothing compared to what liberals have done to President Bush. And conservatives never projected their dislike or disdain for President Clinton onto everyone who voted for him. The same cannot be said for today's liberals.



I'll keep saying it. There are limits. What you people are doing go far beyond dissent. If you're going to wake up, now is the time to do it.
zombi86
2007-10-09 18:22:31 UTC
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it”. Mark Twain
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:30:47 UTC
HELL NO, your speaking your mind and you are not the only american who thinks like that so dont feel bad at all you have every right to feel like that.
anonymous
2007-10-13 04:06:55 UTC
No, you are not. You are a person with a heart and a mind that uses them.
PeguinBackPacker
2007-10-09 17:24:40 UTC
No, for being against the goverment but for the nation is what founded this great nation to begin with.
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:33:49 UTC
Subversion - a systematic attempt to overthrow or UNDERMINE a government or political system
anonymous
2007-10-17 07:33:16 UTC
Not in a Democracy.
♥ Mel
2007-10-09 17:30:19 UTC
I really cannot judge you on that.You do have Freedom of Speech.
White Star
2007-10-09 17:29:10 UTC
No because this current administration does not stand for what America and the Constitution stands for.
Fedup Veteran
2007-10-09 17:27:17 UTC
No, you aren't. THAT is what makes up the USA. Freedom to feel and say what you want. Hating the government is not against the law...not changing it is.
Hennessy
2007-10-09 17:25:34 UTC
No. You are a real patriot if you love your country and care about what it stands for
?
2007-10-09 17:34:14 UTC
no you're not unpatriotic. You're using your right to free speech.
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:26:47 UTC
No more than people who say they love america but hate any american that oppses the war
Chi Guy
2007-10-09 17:28:33 UTC
The current US regime has not earned any form of respect nor loyalty from rational people. They have spit in the face of the people at every given opportunity. I never was one to remain in an abusive relationship.



Respect must be earned, and cannot be demanded.
donwhy60
2007-10-09 17:26:26 UTC
Hate is a strong word....and I don't think it is the govt you hate...it is the people who are supposed to represent us in running it. I think you are an American.
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:29:58 UTC
To disagree with your government is not unpatriotic, but I have to wonder when you say you hate your government. Do you have some better idea than representative democracy, or are you just careless with your verbs?
anonymous
2007-10-09 17:26:04 UTC
No, of course not. Youre just a sound minded citizen. Right on to ya!
Villain
2007-10-09 17:25:15 UTC
No your a patriot.



Your patriotic for defending your love of our nation....and your hatred of the Bush regime. Your just like most Americans!



Your a brave American standing up for your beliefs. Keep it up.
Brian R
2007-10-09 17:34:37 UTC
If you are, then so am I.
Josephine
2007-10-09 17:29:48 UTC
NO.
tired
2007-10-11 05:47:13 UTC
PROOF - WAR ON IRAQ IS FOR OIL



Bush decided to invade Iraq in April 2001, six months before September 11th, and the official reason was to improve Western access to Iraqi oil.





"President Bush's Cabinet agreed in April 2001 that 'Iraq remains

a destabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets

from the Middle East' and because this is an unacceptable risk to

the US 'military intervention' is necessary."[1]

The decision for military action had nothing to do with 9/11, the war on terrorism, the UN weapons inspections, weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi human rights, or any of the factors that the US government would like you to believe are the true motives for war.



The only people who will benefit from the war on Iraq are the elite wealthy oil men who finance Bush's election campaigns, and people like Bush who have huge personal investments in the oil industry. Oil company profits have already increased by fifty percent this year because of the war, and the invasion hasn't even started yet!





"Profits in the fourth quarter soared 50% to $4.09bn (£2.5bn),

beating analyst expectations."[2]

War-time propaganda tells you what you want to hear; that your politicians have noble motives for the war on Iraq.



Before you choose what to believe, have you considered the facts[3] for yourself?









SOURCES:



[1] Sunday Herald newspaper (UK), "Official: US oil at the heart of Iraq crisis", 6 October 2002.



[2] BBC News (UK), "Oil prices lift ExxonMobil", 30 January 2003.



[3] Council on Foreign Relations, "Strategic Energy Policy Challanges for the 21st Century", April 2001.







US VICE-PRESIDENT CHENEY SHARES OUT IRAQ'S OIL

Halliburton, an oil services company based in Bush's home-state of Texas, which was formerly run by US Vice-President Dick Cheney, has already been awarded a contract by the US government to operate in post-war Iraq.[1]





"Reports in the Wall Street Journal suggested the

contracts could be worth as much as $900m."[2]

Haliburton "has a history of government contracts" and will be a "leading beneficiary" of the war on Iraq. Mr Cheney should receive huge financial rewards for the war on Iraq through substantial investments in the corporation he once headed.



Iraq is currently the world's second largest source of oil, but the majority of subterranean oil reserves have never been tapped. After the war, when US oil corporations have fully developed the oil industry's potential, Iraq is expected to become the largest single supply of oil on Earth.



"The new oilfields, when developed, could produce up

to eight million barrels a day within a few years - thus

rivalling Saudi Arabia, the present kingpin of oil."[3]

The world's largest oil corporations are lining-up to exploit what could be the world's greatest supply of oil, and the US government has ensured that companies owned and heavily invested in by America are first in the queue.[4]





SOURCES



[1] Evening Standard (UK), "Cheney under fire over spoils of war", 11 March 2003.



"THE company once headed by US Vice-President

Dick Cheney is set to be a big corporate winner in the

event of a war with Iraq that ended in US victory."

[2] BBC News (UK), "US firms vie to rebuild Iraq", 10 March 2003.



"Aside from Halliburton unit Kellogg Brown and Root,

they include Bechtel, Fluor, Louis Berger and Parsons.

All five are US-owned and headquartered."

[3] Evening Standard, "Is this war all about oil?", 11 March 2003 (PM).



"In the past few days the United States has brought

unprecedented financial pressure on other members

of the UN Security Council - particularly Russia, so

far without success - to join the war on Iraq."

[4] Evening Standard, "Giants see post-war oil bonanza", 10 March 2003.



"President Saddam Hussein is believed to be sitting on

reserves of at least 115bn barrels, the second-biggest in

the world after Saudi Arabia."



FURTHER READING



BBC News, "Oil firms 'discuss Iraqi stake'", 12 March 2003.



"Oil firms BP and Shell [both owned primarily by big

investors in the US and the UK] have held discussions

with the government over a possible stake in Iraq's oil

reserves..."

Washington Post (USA), "Companies Selected to Bid on Iraq Reconstruction", 11 March 2003.



"The Bush administration, preparing what would be

the most ambitious U.S. rebuilding project since the

aftermath of World War II, expects in coming days to

award a construction contract worth hundreds of

millions of dollars to begin remaking Iraq, U.S. officials

said yesterday."



"A few U.S. construction giants -- including the Bechtel

Group Inc., Halliburton Co. and Fluor Corp. -- were

invited to bid for the work..."

BBC News, "Analysis: Oil and the Bush cabinet", 29 January 2001.



"What makes the new Bush administration different

from previous wealthy cabinets is that so many of

the officials have links to the same industry - oil."

BBC News, "Dick Cheney: Leading hawk", 10 September 2002.



"The vice president has also been deeply involved in the

oil industry for much of his career."

BBC News, "New Enron sleaze allegations", 8 October 2002.



"The 'creative' accountancy of Arthur Andersen in Dick

Cheney's firm Halliburton is now under official

investigation."





AMERICA SOLD SADDAM HUSSEIN HIS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION



The US government is attempting to justify their plans for war on Iraq, the world's second largest source of oil, by accusing Iraq of possessing weapons of mass destruction.



The US government has proclaimed that Saddam Hussein must be disarmed. However, recently declassified official government documents reveal that Iraq was armed with weapons of mass destruction by the USA!





SECRET DEAL



The US Defence Secretary, Donald H. Rumsfeld, is a strong supporter of president Bush's plan to invade Iraq, yet a few years ago he personally helped to supply Iraq with biological and chemical weapons!



Donald H. Rumsfeld attended a secret meeting with Saddam Hussein in Iraq on behalf of the US government in December 1983, and agreed to sell Iraq weapons of mass destruction and arranged a loan to give Saddam Hussein the money to buy them. At that time, Iraq was using weapons of mass destruction against its neighbours, and the US not only allowed this but actively supported it.





IS AMERICA MORE DANGEROUS THAN IRAQ AND AL-QAEDA?



Would a war to disarm Iraq solve the true problem? Should we invade Iraq for possessing weapons of mass destruction? Or would it be more worthwhile to stop America supporting terrorism and rogue states?



The US government supported Osama bin Laden during the cold war, and now they want to destroy al-Qaeda. But if we defeat Iraq and al-Qaeda, will it solve the problem or prevent such things from happening again?



The US government supports terrorists dangerous regimes when it suits them. America profits from selling weapons, and then profits by charging interest on the loans which allowed the weapons to be purchased! American weapons are sometimes sold to dangerous regimes, and to both sides in some conflicts. The US government supported Iraq, now they want to disarm Iraq, but while some people make money, unfortunately many people die during both processes.





SADDAM HUSSEIN'S SUSPICIOUS SILENCE:



Why did Saddam Hussein keep this fact secret, when details of such terrible American hypocrisy could have been used as a powerful weapon in his propaganda war against the USA?



What might have been revealed about the secret side of America's relationship with Iraq within the 8,500 pages that the US government removed from Iraq's 12,000 page weapons declaration before most UN security council members were allowed to see it?





INVESTIGATING AMERICA'S TRUE MOTIVES FOR WAR WITH IRAQ:



The US government's official reasons for wanting to invade Iraq have proved to be false, so we must consider other motives that have not been declared such as oil.





PRIMARY SOURCE:



"Washington Post" newspaper article (USA)

Title: "U.S. had key role in Iraq build up"

Author: Michael Dobbs

Date: 30 Dec 2002

Page: front page



Extracts:



"Trade in Chemical Arms Allowed Despite Their Use on Iranians, Kurds"



"High on the Bush administration's list of justifications for war against Iraq are President Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons, nuclear and biological programs, and his contacts with international terrorists. What U.S. officials rarely acknowledge is that these offenses date back to a period when Hussein was seen in Washington as a valued ally."



"Among the people instrumental in tilting U.S. policy toward Baghdad during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war was Donald H. Rumsfeld, now defense secretary, whose December 1983 meeting with Hussein as a special presidential envoy paved the way for normalization of U.S.-Iraqi relations. Declassified documents show that Rumsfeld traveled to Baghdad at a time when Iraq was using chemical weapons on an 'almost daily' basis in defiance of international conventions."



"The story of U.S. involvement with Saddam Hussein in the years before his 1990 attack on Kuwait -- which included large-scale intelligence sharing, supply of cluster bombs through a Chilean front company, and facilitating Iraq's acquisition of chemical and biological precursors -- is a topical example of the underside of U.S. foreign policy. It is a world in which deals can be struck with dictators, human rights violations sometimes overlooked, and accommodations made with arms proliferators, all on the principle that the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend.'"



...



"A review of thousands of declassified government documents and interviews with former policymakers shows that U.S. intelligence and logistical support played a crucial role in shoring up Iraqi defenses against the "human wave" attacks by suicidal Iranian troops. The administrations of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush authorized the sale to Iraq of numerous items that had both military and civilian applications, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological viruses, such as anthrax and bubonic plague."







SECONDARY SOURCE



"Daily Mail" newspaper article (UK)

Title: "Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons'"

Date: 31 December 2002

Author: William Lowther

Page: front page



Extract:



"U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfield helped Saddam Hussein build up his arsenal of biological and chemical weapons, it was revealed last night."





TERTIARY SOURCE:



USA Today

Title: "U.S. supplied the kinds of germs Iraq later used for biological weapons"

Date: 30 September 2002.



Extract:



"Iraq's bioweapons program that President Bush wants to eradicate got its start with help from Uncle Sam two decades ago, according to government records getting new scrutiny in light of the discussion of war against Iraq.



"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent samples directly to several Iraqi sites that U.N. weapons inspectors determined were part of Saddam Hussein's biological weapons program, CDC and congressional records from the early 1990s show."





FURTHER READING:



BBC News, "Rumsfeld cautious on Iraqi compliance", 12 December 2002.



BBC News, "Donald Rumsfeld: Tough and determined", 10 September 02.



BBC News, "Bush: Iraq's 'day of reckoning' looms", 3 January 03.





BRITISH NEWSPAPER SUGGESTS IRAQ WAR IS FOR OIL



In today's front-page news, the UK's Daily Mirror newspaper highlighted the overwhelming evidence that the US government's plans for war are motivated by oil more than anything else.[1] However, the government has not yet informed the public that oil is a motive for the "war on terrorism".



The newspaper also warned that America and her allies could face over 10 years of war. According to a Captain currently training US soldiers: "We must reckon with 30 per cent casualties in such combat". A General who served in the Gulf War has predicted that the invasion of Iraq that: "It will be a bloodbath."[2]



America is preparing to plunge the world into an extremely serious military campaign at the end of January 2003[3], but has the US government been open and honest with the public about their reasons?

Read the evidence and decide for yourself.





SOURCES



[1] Daily Mirror, "Why George Bush Jnr is hell-bent on war with Iraq", front-page, 6 January 2003.



[2] Daily Mirror, "Our 10 year war", 6 January 2003.



[3] Washington Post newspaper, "Bush Tells Troops: Prepare For War", 4 January 2003, front page.



U.N. DECLARES 'NO CASE' FOR AMERICA'S WAR WITH IRAQ



NO REASON FOR IRAQ WAR



United Nations Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, has admitted that there is

"no basis" yet for the use of force against Iraq.



"I don't see an argument for military action now"

- Kofi Annan, UN Secretary General



"We haven't found an iota of concealed material yet

- UN weapons inspector



[ BBC News, "'No basis' for Iraq war now", 31 December 2002 ]





U.N. CONTRADICTS US ACCUSATIONS



This contradicts the US government's claim that Iraq is in "material

breach" of UN resolutions. The deliberate use of this term is significant,

because a "material breach" would give the US legal power to invade Iraq.



[ BBC News, "Bush to speak on Iraq 'violation'", 20 December 2002 ]





TOP-SECRET AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE



The US government claimed last year they possessed intelligence against

Saddam Hussein and promised to share this with the UN weapons inspectors in Iraq.



[ BBC News, "US agrees to share Iraq intelligence", 21 December 2002 ]





However, the UN weapons inspectors have not yet seen any of the

intelligence that the US and the UK governments claim to have.



"We need intelligence reports if they exist"

- UN weapons inspector



[ BBC News, "'No basis' for Iraq war now", 31 December 2002 ]



VATICAN WARNS AMERICA THAT WAR ON IRAQ IS NOT JUSTIFED



The Vatican has warned president Bush that a war against Iraq would be:



"a war of aggression that cannot be justified"



An official Catholic newspaper reports that this statement was made during a press-press conference by the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace at the headquarters of the Catholic church.[1]



The American president has announced that the US military will be ready for war with Iraq by 27 January 2003.[2]





SOURCES



[1] The Universe, "Vatican condemns US determination to attack", 6 January 2003.



[2] Washington Post newspaper, "Bush Tells Troops: Prepare For War", 4 January 2003, front page



DID THE U.S. GOVERNMENT BRIBE U.N. MEMBERS TO SUPPORT WAR ON IRAQ?



UN support for Iraq war was "bought for a price" by US government.



US intelligence effectively "bought" or "hired" the support of the United Nations Security Council for a war with Iraq, by offering them a share in the spoils of war. Permanent members of the UN Security Council have been guaranteed a stake in the profits from Iraq's oil, the world's second largest source, provided that they keep quiet about their objections to the war.



The permanent members of the UN Security Council were the only people to see Iraq's complete weapons declaration before the US government removed 70% of it, leaving only 3,500 pages of the 12,000 page report.





Extract from article in Washington Post newspaper:





"A U.S.-led ouster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein could

open a bonanza for American oil companies long banished

from Iraq, scuttling oil deals between Baghdad and Russia,

France and other countries, and reshuffling world petroleum

markets, according to industry officials and leaders of the Iraqi

opposition."



"Although senior Bush administration officials say they have

not begun to focus on the issues involving oil and Iraq,

American and foreign oil companies have already begun

maneuvering for a stake in the country's huge proven reserves

of 112 billion barrels of crude oil, the largest in the world

outside Saudi Arabia."



"The importance of Iraq's oil has made it potentially one of

the administration's biggest bargaining chips in negotiations to

win backing from the U.N. Security Council and Western allies

for President Bush's call for tough international action against

Hussein. All five permanent members of the Security Council -

the United States, Britain, France, Russia and China - have

international oil companies with major stakes in a change of

leadership in Baghdad."



"'It's pretty straightforward,' said former CIA director R.

James Woolsey, who has been one of the leading advocates of

forcing Hussein from power. 'France and Russia have oil

companies and interests in Iraq. They should be told that if

they are of assistance in moving Iraq toward decent

government, we'll do the best we can to ensure that the new

government and American companies

work closely with them.'"



[ Washington Post, "In Iraq war scenario, oil is key issue", front-page, 15 September 2002 ]



AMERICA REMOVED 70% OF IRAQ'S WEAPONS DECLARATION!



Iraq produced a 12,500 page weapons declaration for United Nations, but the American government removed 8,500 pages of the report before the rest of the world was allowed to see it!



70 per cent of the Iraqi weapons report for the UN was:





"removed for the version given to non-permanent members,

leaving a document of about 3,500 pages."



[ BBC News, "'Little new' in Iraq declaration", 19 December 2002 ]



America's decision to withhold all but 3,500 pages of Iraq's 12,500 page weapons declaration is a serious and deliberate attempt to conceal important facts in a serious international crisis, and demonstrates the American government's contempt for the rest of the world.



America and United Nations have lied to Iraq and deceived the world. They forced Iraq to produce a weapons declaration and pretended that the report was for the UN. In reality the original report went directly to US intelligence,

who immediately distributed it among America's closest allies. More than two thirds of the report was hidden before the rest of the UN security council were allowed to see it.



Do you know the whole truth about the Bush government's motives for war with Iraq? READ THE FACTS before you support the war with Iraq; before you spend your taxes on the war, and before you or your friends and family are sent to die in the war.



U.S. MILITARY WILL CAPTURE IRAQ'S OIL FIELDS FIRST



The Council on Foreign Relations has issued advice to the American government in which a "key recommendation" is to ensure the availability of Iraq's oil after the war:





"ensuring that the U.S. military has the requisite information

to identify the assets that could, if severely damaged or destroyed

during military hostilities, substantially delay resumption of the

Iraqi oil export program"

[ CFR, Guiding Principles for Post-Conflict Policy in Iraq", December 2002. ]





Is the priority of an American invasion of Iraq to profit from Iraqi oil, the world's second largest supply?



UNITED STATES AND BRITAIN WILL ATTACK IRAQ: GOOD NEWS FOR THE OIL INDUSTRY



The USA and Britain are poised to invade Iraq and replace the existing national government with a new West-controlled government. Suspicion that the true motivation for the war on terror is created by the massive arms and oil industries of the West.



Did oil influence America's decision to attack Iraq? Read the evidence below and decide for yourself. The U.S. government acknowledges that America will benefit from taking control of Iraq's oil production, but they have not yet stated whether or not oil influenced their decision to invade. When any nation declares war on another it is essential that they are open and honest about their reasons.



The U.S. Government and their Energy Information Administration know that Iraq is the second greatest source of oil on earth. Could this be an undeclared motive for a military conquest of Iraq?





"Iraq is important to world energy markets because it holds more than

112 billion barrels of oil - the world's second largest reserves. Iraq also

contains 110 trillion cubic feet of gas."

[ US Government's Country Analysis Brief on Iraq, December 1999. ]





"No matter what decision the president makes [on Iraq], the United States

will always be better off with a policy that provides more energy independence"

(Ari Fleischer, White House spokesman)

[ Miami Herald (from Reuters), "White House: No Link Between Iraq Policy, Oil Price", 6 September 2002 ]





A new war in the Middle-East will have disastrous effects throughout the world, while the only guaranteed benefits will go to oil and weapons companies and their share-holders. The oil industry is certain to raise oil prices and increase their profits as supplies become more scarce. Many countries will spend more on defence as the war destabilises regional and international peace.



The U.S. and British governments claim that the reason for making war against Iraq is to prevent them from possessing weapons of mass destruction. There are serious doubts throughout the international community, however, about whether or not an attack of Iraq would be justified. Furthermore, a pre-emptive attack on Iraq would undoubtedly be illegal under international law, which clearly states that military action is not allowed except in defence.



U.S. President George W. Bush notified the United Nations on 12 September 2002, an emotive date, that America would attack Iraq unless they "immediately and unconditionally forswear, disclose, and remove or destroy all weapons of mass destruction." War therefore seems inevitable because Iraq cannot decommission weapons which it says do not exist.



In fact, America began planning the military conquest of Iraq at least as early as July 2002..

In a historic speech to the Iraqi parliament in Baghdad on 8 September 2002, a senior United Nations weapons representative in Iraq voiced serious doubts that there is any justification whatsoever for an attack against Iraq.



Scott Ritter, who resigned from the U.N. weapons inspection team in 1998, explained to Iraq's government that America's case for war against Iraq was "built upon fear and ignorance, as opposed to the reality of truth and fact." He pointed out that Iraq had no part in the attacks against America on September 11th, "and in fact is active in suppressing the sort of fundamentalist extremism that characterises those who attacked the United States on that horrible day." Most importantly, the former senior U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq authoritatively stated that Iraq does not pose the threat alleged by the U.S. and Britain, declaring that "Iraq has not been shown to possess weapons of mass destruction."



"The truth of the matter is that Iraq today is not a threat to its neighbours

and is not acting in a manner which threatens anyone outside of its own

borders."

[ BBC News, "Scott Ritter addresses Iraqi parliament", 8 September 2002 ]



There is too much at stake for us to enter into war without good reason. Military action could make things worse for the West and not better. Former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter has warned that an attack on Iraq will have disastrous consequences for peace and security in the Middle East and is likely to aggravate increased support for future attacks on America. It is certain that the war will damage Western economies, triggering a substantial increase in oil prices until the allies seize control of Iraq's abundant oil fields.



CIA SAY IRAQ IS NOT A THREAT TO AMERICA



"President George Bush's attempt to maintain public support for military action

against Iraq has taken a fresh blow from an unexpected quarter, with the

publication of a letter from the CIA stating that while Saddam Hussein poses

little threat to America"

[ The Guardian newspaper (UK), "CIA in blow to Bush attack plans", 10 October 2002 ]

[ CATO Institute, "Declassified CIA Report Undercuts Bush's Desire to Invade Iraq", 14 October 2002.



The Central Intelligence Agency, America's national security service, has officially declared that Iraq does not pose a threat to the West. In fact, the CIA has warned that a U.S. attack on Iraq will actually cause a greater threat to American national security.



This news seriously undermines President George W. Bush's claim that a military conquest of Iraq, the world's second greatest source of oil, is justified by national security interests. Why does Bush's U.S. government suddenly want to attack Iraq if the country is not a threat?







AMERICA PLANNED TO CONQUER IRAQ TO SEIZE THEIR OIL MONTHS BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11.



A U.S. government report from before September 11 proves that America was already planning a military conquest of Iraq. The war is now almost impossible to justify as a "war on terrorism".



"As the United States prepares for war with Iraq, a report commissioned

early in George Bush's presidency has surfaced, showing that the US

knew it was running out of oil and foreshadowing the possible need

for military intervention to secure supplies."

[ Sidney Morning Herald, "Oil has always been top of Bush's foreign-policy agenda", 7 October 2002. ]

This new evidence adds credibility to widespread fears that oil and emperialism is the reason for the war on terror, and not national security is the



"Five months before September 11, the US advocated using force

against Iraq to secure control of its oil."

[ Sunday Herald, "The West's battle for oil", 6 October 2002. ]

Is it a conflict of interests that most people in Bush's U.S. government have substantial personal financial interests in the oil industry?





"What makes the new Bush administration different from previous wealthy

cabinets is that so many of the officials have links to the same industry

- oil."

[ BBC News, "Analysis: Oil and the Bush cabinet", 29 January 2001. ]





"Bush has long had close links with the energy business. Not only did President

Bush work in the oil business, so did the Vice-President and two other

members of his cabinet. Energy companies contributed generously to the

Bush campaign, sometimes by unorthodox means."

[ BBC Report, "The Toxic Texan", 18 October 2001. ]







WAR ON IRAQ OFFICIALLY DECLARED ILLEGAL UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW



The American and British governments have declared their plans to use military action to force a "regime change" in Iraq. Unfortunately, in international law, this is an unlawful reason for war.



[ BBC News, "US and UK call for Iraq 'change'", 6 April 2002 ]





"Two of Britain's most senior legal figures have warned Prime Minister

Tony Blair that military action against Iraq to force a regime change would

breach international law..."



[ Reuters news service, 7 October 2002. ]

Sydney Morning Herald, "US may charge Saddam with war crimes", 8 October 2002.





The British Attourney General and Solicitor General have confirmed to the U.K. Government that an attack on Iraq would be illegal under international law.





"Tony Blair, the UK prime minister, has been warned by his attorney-general

that military action against Iraq to force a regime change would breach

international law.





"The clear advice from Lord Goldsmith and Harriet Harman, the solicitor general,

places the prime minister in a potentially 'impossible position', according to

legal experts."



[ Financial Times newspaper, October 2002. ]



Will Britain and America respect international law, or is the capture of the world's second largest oil supply too tempting to resist?







AN OPEN LETTER FROM THE DIRECTOR TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD



If you share our concern about this important issue, please circulate this message as widely as possible. Thank you.





Dear People,



I appeal to you to express your opposition to a war against Iraq which would at the present time be illegal and apparently driven by corrupt motives.



A pre-emptive strike against Iraq or any other nation would be illegal under international law. The United Nations, of which America is a leading and permanent member state, specifically forbids the use of force except in defence. The United States is entitled to defend its national security, but no matter how powerful a country becomes it is certainly hypocritical to ignore the rules to which it has expressly agreed, especially when other nations are expected to respect international law.



In the absence of any new evidence, and in the light of compelling evidence that oil is a significant yet undeclared motive for the war on terrorism, we can only conclude that the US President has absolutely failed to make a case for a military conquest of Iraq.



Yours faithfully,



John



Sir John Habsburg

Campaign Director

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