Question:
If Conservatives are So Afraid of Socialism, Why do They Keep Instituting Anti-Worker Policies?
2014-06-22 10:55:09 UTC
By continually favoring the wealthy at the expense of the workers, conservatives will, at some point, face growing resentment from ordinary people. Ultimately, in an oppressive society, many workers may begin to contemplate socialism. Will anti-worker policies end up backfiring for conservatives?
Fifteen answers:
Mr. Smartypants
2014-06-22 11:04:25 UTC
I think you make a very good point. We used to see capitalism as 'the rising tide that raises all boats the same'. We used to measure the success of our economy by a continuously rising standard of living for working people, each generation being a little richer than their parents. Rich people still got richer and richer but the average guy still had a chance.



Today we measure success by profits alone, but in order for profits to continue to rise labor must get cheaper and cheaper. So for more than 30 years now, the top 1% richest Americans have doubled their wealth every 10 years, while the rest of us have faced a steady, slow deterioration of our standard of living and our economic security.



By that standard, it's -good- that fewer and fewer people can own their own home, or go to college, or have good pensions, or have a 'career path' at the same company for 40 years.



And the problem with this trend is that it's not ultimately sustainable. Sooner or later it grows unstable and leads to a populist revolution.
Socrates
2014-06-23 00:22:29 UTC
Your main question doesn't make any sense. Not only does it have a lack of understanding of why Conservatives make the economic decisions they do, it has a flawed assumption that whatever Socialistic policy there is, it should be given into, as if Socialism has been the ultimate economic success since the French Revolution. Nothing could be farther from the truth.



You fall for this emotional and asinine us vs. them, victimization, 19th century robber baron image of Capitalism that has put in front of you. You react to this image, not think about it. What you see as pandering to the wealth is a desire of Conservatives simply to not make them punching bags and pack mules for socioeconomic engineering. What "anti-worker" policies are you talking about? Answering this will expose your misunderstanding of the issues involved.



A lot of this attitude of yours is driven by the idea that wealth is like some big pie, moved around or "taken" from others. This is not true, wealth is created. The "oppression" that is going on right now is due to the lack of economic recovery of this economy. It SHOULD have started 4.5 years ago, shortly after the end of the recession. You can thank the business-hostile, over-regulated policies of the Obama Administration for that. It has effectively shut down the up-escalator of upward mobility that is a cornerstone for the usual success of the American economy. The SAME thing happened with FDR and the lingering of the effects of the Great Depression. It took 7 years before sharp recovery took place.
?
2014-06-22 11:20:02 UTC
So liberals decide to create a law that gives the federal government the authority to give hand-outs to corporations, then more corporations pile on and stick their hands out, then corporations make bad decisions and liberals use the laws they created under FDR to bailout corporations that failed...



...and from that, you made the determination that its conservatives that favor the wealthy?



Conservatives have been pushing for limiting the government and not allowing that to take place for 50+ years. In fact, it was one of the main reasons the Tea Party formed with their anti-Bush policies that were doing the exact same thing that liberals were doing all that time.



Conservatives want workers to be able to sell their labor for whatever they can get. They also support workers having the choice to not work at a place that isn't pro-worker. They also support workers having the choice of whether or not they wish to join a union.



In fact, I could post a list a mile long of conservative policies that are pro-worker and pro-small business.



Since the basis of your rationale is incorrect, the conclusion you have made from that basis is also incorrect. It isn't so just because someone brainwashed you into thinking it is.



If you want to see the result of liberal anti-worker policies, just take a look at the jobless numbers in the country, or the number of underpaid workers that have been limited to shorter hours. The evidence is practically slapping you in the face.



Starting July 1, 2014 the government is going to attempt to tax citizens that deposit their money in banks that accrue interest higher than the artificially lowered interest rates here in America. People are trying to save their money in places where their form of currency is worth more than the dollar. The fact that the government wants to do this, show that their policies are failing the worker and the businesses.



More businesses have filed for bankruptcy under Obama than any other President, ever. No businesses, no workers. It doesn't get much more anti-worker than that. Open your eyes and realize who is slapping you in the face.



More and more people a graduating college and not being able to find a job. Obama just passed a law to ease their payments on their government loans, flat-out admitting that his policies are failing so badly that he has to do this.



And its not just there...have a quick look at the massively high amounts of drug shortages on the FDA's list. These are basic drugs that a lot of hospitals simply can't operate without. Several people have died simply because they couldn't get basic, common medicines. The worker cannot work if the worker is dead. That's the ultimate anti-worker policy, and it has nothing to do with conservatives.



We're not afraid of socialism, we're watching the exact effects of trying to implement it from the front row.
?
2014-06-22 11:13:25 UTC
can you be more specific? What policies exactly? Chances are the "republicans" who support such policies are actually not conservative at all. Socialism is the best way to kill initiative. Capitalism has a proven track record. If is liberals who wish to keep church and state seperate. Government really has no business on either side of the spectrum funding people, whether it be the poor or the elite businesses. At least the businesses pay taxes.
?
2014-06-22 11:15:01 UTC
Your post glaringly lacks any examples of these so called "anti worker" policies.



Artificially raising wages maybe? No, that just throws unskilled workers out but conveniently increases Union contributions to the Dem party.



Can't think of any "anti worker" policies except from Obama, and Dem party. Jackin up taxes, hyperinflation, massive regs (which Obama "promised" to streamline). Flood of illegals taking low end jobs. ALL Dem policies my freind.
robzuc97
2014-06-22 10:58:52 UTC
And yet the disparity between those who have and those who do not have grown under Obama policies and not "conservative" ones. That is unless you can source an actual BILL that has passed both House and Senate written by and endorsed by those "greedy" Republicans in the last 6 years. While you're at it explain why the richest members of Congress are DEMOCRATS...
Dave
2014-06-22 11:00:20 UTC
People are afraid to rebel against the system because of the risk of losing their jobs, freedom or lives. They will kill you if you are a threat to them, make no mistake about it. Of course, they will make it look like an accident, but they will induce a heart attack and put you 6 feet under. Repressive system is here to control the people (police, FBI etc.) and to protect the government (rich), not the people. They want people to be stupid, oblivious of their potential and rights and to pay tax, that's it. Organ donors for rich too, if necessary.
?
2014-06-22 10:59:34 UTC
Higher wages will only send the jobs overseas - I'm not sure what the solution is.



Illegals don't mind the low wages - that's another problem.
2014-06-22 10:59:27 UTC
Stupid or liar...which are you?



Liberals constantly push anti worker policies and hate the poor.



Look at every community where liberal policies are in place...massive unemployment...massive welfare....failing schools.



It's pretty evident what liberalism gets you.
2014-06-22 10:57:58 UTC
They actually have poor conservatives considering it, and either don't realize it or don't care. But our votes have as much weight as theirs, and there are more of us.



I want to be for fair conservative policies, but how do you pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you have no boots, and no means to obtain them?
Seiko .
2014-06-22 10:58:03 UTC
If you are going to make silly accusations, at least attempt to back them up. One cannot address these "anti-worker" policies without knowing what policy you are trying to blame for our poor economy.
El Tecolote
2014-06-22 11:00:35 UTC
You haven't studied much world history before during your life, have you?
?
2014-06-22 11:37:06 UTC
if you like socialism so much move to China or russia and get out while you still can
Oliver
2014-06-22 11:00:05 UTC
I hate them all
2014-06-22 10:57:55 UTC
Unions are modern day slavery!


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