Question:
I think I found something Republicans can agree with me on...?
anonymous
11 years ago
I heard a story today that was quite disturbing. 200,000 farmers in India have committed suicide over the past handful of years. Why? Because they can’t make a living anymore.

Why?

Because they used to be able to keep their seeds and replant every year. Now, since Monsanto has a patent on seeds, and they have engineered seeds you have to buy every year. No choice in the matter.

Many of these farmers walk into the middle of their field, drink a gallon of pesticide, and lay down to die.

Can we agree that something like God’s seeds, the lifeblood of our food supply, should not be allowed to be withheld? It’s insane, isn’t it? What’s next - some corporation will control all the remaining drinking water? At what point do we all just become their slaves?

It’s time to end seed patents and let farmers grow what they want again, when they want, and with their own seeds.

What do you say?
Eleven answers:
Sarah
11 years ago
Monsanto has destroyed American farmers, as well. House republicans just voted to extend the Monsanto Protection Act. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/house-republicans-vote-extend-monsanto-protection-act-article-1.1462811
ms manners
11 years ago
Whether the story about India is true or not, it is a real potential problem.



I found out about this last year. It's not about patents....the seed is actually engineered so it will not regenerate.



It finally explained why I was not able to plant seeds from the squash I grew and have them sprout.



I also found out recently that I was unable to grow my own potatoes because they are treated with a chemical which prevents them from sprouting.



There are still seeds that work the normal way, called Heirloom seeds. I plan to buy those from now on.



As well as organic potatoes. Can you imagine how much of that chemical people who eat a lot of fast food must be exposed to?
cornbread_oracle
11 years ago
Scares the crap outta me because I remember a Biblical prophecy that said something like in the End of Days the very seeds in the field will be numbered.
?
11 years ago
You know Obama just ticked off the entire world by allowing Monsanto continue their practices here even though they have been outlawed across the globe. Their products are know to kill bees and other pollinators.
No Gods No Masters
11 years ago
actually don't count on either Republicans or Democrats for support on this issue. Monsanto has them all bought off.
JesusismyDeliverer
11 years ago
Yeah, Farmer's rights!!! just like in Iowa and Idaho!!
anonymous
11 years ago
I'm indifferent. I don't support the methods or the motivations of Monsanto. But, this world demands immediate convenience. It looks like the higher demand for that promises fewer freedoms.
?
11 years ago
I agree! Instead of being a slave to the corporation, we can be a slave to the government!! YAY!!
kestralmlp
11 years ago
I say it is a load of crock that 200,000 have committed suicide.
?
11 years ago
http://rt.com/op-edge/monsato-manipulation-food-chain-799/ 'What's wrong with GM food? The fundamental problem- it’s genetically & biologically unstable. There’s no genetic modification known to science that’s stable -it’s always mutating. GM products that are in the human & animal food chain over the last 20 years are modified primarily to do one thing- 80% of all GM is modified to accept chemicals, the pesticides. Monsanto Roundup being the most prominent of them, which are highly toxic & they’re modified to be resistant to that deadly chemical so that it kills everything inside, except Monsanto corn /soy beans.All those chemicals are equally as dangerous to human food chain as GMO seeds themselves. Monsanto-world’s largest owner of seeds..bought up all small seed companies to control those seed varieties of wheat, of rice, of corn & soy beans, so forth. And no.2 Monsanto bought up a company that gives Monsanto a patent on what are called terminator seeds, which self-destruct, the seeds commit suicide after ONE harvest season. So, farmers are unable to take part of their seeds & replant them for-next harvest season-something that NEVER in history has been possible before this Monsanto development. But Monsanto is the metaphor for genetic manipulation of the food chain-largest-others Syngenta in Switzerland, BASF, a partner of Monsanto in Germany. Dow & DuPont Chemical. Monsanto is the giant. US govt keen to protect Monsanto? this is the strategic interest of the US agribusiness lobby, lobby of Bush Senior as president in 1992. Monsanto went to White House & had a closed-door meeting with Bush, got him to agree to make sure there are no govt tests what so ever on the health & safety of GMO products before they were released to the commercial public..doctrine of 'substantial equivalence'–by no means scientifically rigorous. So there have been up until recently no long-term tests beyond what 90 day short-term studies Monsanto gave to the govt to say ‘everything is hunky-dory.’ evidence has been uncovered by whistleblowers who say we were forced to alter the scientific data for Monsanto so it showed results were positive.. fox guarding the chicken house -Monsanto verifying health & safety of its own products. But it’s the idea of monopoly on seeds, a patent on monopoly on seeds worldwide that makes the whole question of Monsanto & GMO question so extremely important in so many countries. They are trying everything to bribe & influence European commission in Brussels. A study published in the PEW review, a serious scientific journal of toxicology, showing that rats fed with GMO Monsanto corn, had huge incidents of cancer tumors compared with non GMO rats..enormous organ damage & death rates 5 times normal rats. Study was suppressed by EU food safety administration.. most of the scientists on the panel had ties to Monsanto..Monsanto tries to infiltrate its way, try to block labeling in California, because that would damage their whole product situation in US. I think there is change going on not only against Monsanto but biological engineering of our food chain.' http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xszzc8_why-you-should-care-gmos-on-your-plate-e6_news http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-foods/indian-farmers-committing-suicide-monsanto-gm-crops/ 'Monsanto’s GM crops were supposed to feed the world hunger/starvation but instead-diverse sustainable organic agriculture was replaced with globalization, GMO crop failures & its threat to environment & human’s health, monopoly, farmer’s suicide & world wide control of seeds. Every 30 minutes an Indian farmer commits suicide as a result of Monsanto’s GM crops. In last decade more than 250,000 Indian farmers have killed themselves because of Monsanto’ costly seeds & pesticides. Globalization & monopoly have forced farmers to buy GM seeds & since GM crops have become pests’ resistance, farmers have no choice but to purchase Monsanto’s pesticide. GM crops fail over & over again; GM crops also do not grow back again next year & every year farmers have to buy new seeds. In 2008 Daily Mail called the continuous suicide of Indian farmers a “genocide” in human history. What’s really disturbings is that often time farmers commit suicide by drinking the insecticide shipped to them by Monsanto. http://youtu.be/-k-ZS_dPzAQ video http://youtu.be/Av6dx9yNiCA

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1077u2_monsanto-monopoly-pushes-farmers-to-suicide_news '

http://naturalsociety.com/monsantos-gmo-seeds-farmer-suicides-every-30-minutes/ Monsanto’s cost-inflated/ineffective seeds ..driving 1/4 million farmers to suicide, over past 16 years.

http://rt.com/op-edge/monsanto-eu-gmo-engdahl-491/ 'Not supplying cheaper food. key thing in GMO. monopoly. model developed by Rockefeller Foundation for agri-business & oil. Namely a globalization cartel control-a quasi-monopoly of market for food, history of the last 30 years worldwide in the food chain.
?
11 years ago
No you didn't



How Seeds of a False Story Took Root and Spread



By Keith Kloor | May 9, 2012 12:42 pm



When a questionable story gets rolling and takes on a life of its own, you can usually count on journalists to check it out thoroughly. Not that debunking it necessarily puts an end to the matter, as we discovered with President Obama’s birth certificate and the global warming hoax cooked up by thousands of scientists. Some stories, no matter how discredited, remain believable for certain audiences.



A case in point is the story of India’s shockingly high farmer suicide rates being blamed on agricultural multinationals and GE (genetically engineered) crop technology. The short version of this story is that hundreds of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves after the GE cotton crops they switched to either failed or didn’t produce a high enough yield to offset their costs, thus putting individual farmers (and their families) in massive debt. This assertion, which has been percolating for nearly a decade, rocketed far and wide in 2008 after the UK’s Prince Charles hooked his personal anti-GMO campaign to a very real and tragic story in rural parts of India.



That indebted Indian farmers have taken their own lives in horribly high numbers is true. But it’s a complex story that surprisingly few in the media have attempted to unravel. This has allowed anti-GMO activists to build and propagate their farmer suicide/biotech narrative without much journalistic scrutiny. In a minute, we will see where this has led.



So shortly after Prince Charles made his claim in 2008, the Daily Mail, a bastion of melodramatic and scurrilous journalism, parachuted one of its reporters into India for a first hand look-see. That resulted in a story headlined:





The GM Genocide: Thousands of Indian farmers committing suicide after using genetically modified crops

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The piece had all the hallmarks of the Daily Mail’s standard dreck: It was one-sided, biased, sensationalist, and egregiously irresponsible. No matter. On the web, it has had a huge and useful afterlife for GMO opponents.



One month after the Daily Mail piece appeared, the Guardian reported on a new study suggesting that,





if anything, suicides among farmers have been decreasing since the introduction of GM cotton by Monsanto in 2002. “It is not only inaccurate, but simply wrong to blame the use of Bt cotton as the primary cause of farmer suicides in India,” said the report from the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI) in Washington DC. “Despite the recent media hype around farmer suicides,” it added, “fuelled by civil society organisations and reaching the highest political spheres in India and elsewhere, there is no evidence in available data of a ‘resurgence’ of farmer suicide in India in the last five years.”



It also found that the adoption of pest-resistant Bt cotton varieties had led to massive increases in yield and a 40% decrease in pesticide use.



“What we argue is that it’s far more complex than simply adopting a technology,” lead author Guillaume Gruère told New Scientist magazine.

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Indeed, the story of those Indian farmer suicides is exceedingly complex and multi-causal. In another study published several years ago, K. Nagaraj, an economist at Madras Institute of Development Studies in Tamil Nadu, examined data from 1997 to 2010 in one of the regions hardest hit by farmer suicides. He concluded:





The answer to the question as to why the farmers are committing suicides? lies in a combination of factors such as crop failure, shifting to more profitable but risky (in terms of output, quality and prices) cash crops like cotton/ sugarcane/ soyabean, exorbitant rate of interest and other terms and conditions of loans availed from money lenders, lack of non farm opportunities, unwillingness to adopt to scientific practices, non availability of timely credit from formal channel, absence of proper climate/ incentive for timely repayment of bank loan, etc. At some places even though water is available but can’t be exploited fully due to insufficient power supply. Huge expenditure on children’s education and sudden demand of money for health considerations and marriage, etc. in the family are also major contributors for stress in farming community. Inconsistency of rainfall during monsoon,absence of support mechanism for marketing of agriculture produce also contributed to uncertainty and financial risk of the farmers.

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In 2011, NYU’s Center for Human Rights and Global Justice released a report on India’s farmer suicide crisis that cited predatory behavior of GMO sales reps as one of the contributors, but its overall assessment was nuanced:







These farmers and their families are among the victims of India’s longstanding agrarian crisis. Economic reforms and the opening of Indian agriculture to the global market over the past two decades have increased costs, while reducing yields and profits for many farmers, to the point of great financial and emotional distress. As a result, smallholder farmers are often trapped in a cycle of debt. During a bad year, money from the sale of the cotton crop might not cover even the initial cost of the inputs, let alone suffice to pay the usurious interest on loans or provide adequate food or necessities for the family. Often the only way out is to take on more loans and buy more inputs, which in turn can lead to even greater debt. Indebtedness is a major and proximate cause of farmer suicides in India.

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Nonetheless, William Pentland at Forbes was critical of the report’s thrust and acidly noted (in a dig at GMO opponents):





Despite what many may believe, most companies ““ agribusiness included ““ prefer to keep their customers alive and prosperous.

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Now if you want to know how widely the meme of biotech culpability in India’s rural tragedy has spread, just google Indian farmer suicides. But at the top of your search, I recommend you read the Wikipedia page titled, “Farmers’ suicides in India.” It is quite evenhanded.



Which brings me to media coverage of a new documentary called Bitter Seeds. The fawning reception to it in various quarters is uncritical and not surprising. For example, here’s the write-up in Grist:





The film follows a plucky 18-year-old girl named Manjusha, whose father was one of the quarter-million farmers who have committed suicide in India in the last 16 years. As Grist and others have reported, the motivations for these suicides follow a familiar pattern: Farmers become trapped in a cycle of debt trying to make a living growing Monsanto’s genetically engineered Bt cotton.

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As anyone doing a modicum of background reading would learn, that statement is a tad simplistic, to put it charitably. But the narrative of Monsanto’s villainy and the dark side of GMO crops is unquestionably accepted and reinforced at places like Grist.



But that’s on Grist if it’s content to mostly nod approvingly at the talking points of advocacy campaigns. By now, its readers should know what to expect.



For those interested in just how intellectually bankrupt (but also incredibly persistent) the larger narrative of the GM cotton “failure” in India is, read this essay by Cornell University’s Ron Herring. He concludes:





The answer to our puzzle about farmers adopting disastrous technologies””perhaps the most rapid global adoption of any technology in history””is that the disasters exist entirely in the ideational imaginary of transnational advocacy networks. Nevertheless, the narrative of Bt-cotton catastrophe in India is coherent and globally distributed; it catches attention and compels action. It is also without any empirical or biological basis.

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Which goes to show that on certain issues like genetically modified crops, social activists and green writers are masters at post-truth politics.


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