Question:
Do you support Obama's war on inexpensive energy as a way to create a market for high cost alternative energy?
Jim Bay
2011-11-15 09:38:22 UTC
According to administration documents traditional energy sources such as clean coal, natural gas, nuclear, oil gas, and hydro electric need to be scaled back in supply in order to cause a 4 fold increase in price from 2008 prices. Had Obama been successful his alternative energy strategy of subsidizing alternative energy to the tune of 35 Billion might have turned a profit and not been a total waste of our tax dollars.

Did you know this was Obama plan when you voted in 2008?
Had you known would you have voted differently?
Do you think its an appropriate role of government to try and manipulate the energy markets or any markets for that matter?
Do you think the government should be in the business of subsidizing some business and not others? Isn't this what OWS and the Tea Party calls crony capitalism?
Obama successfully has doubled the price of energy gas in particular - Did you know most economist say for the US economy to recover gas prices need to be around $2.00 a gallon. Do you think Obama knew that and proceeded with his plan anyway?
Thirteen answers:
?
2011-11-15 09:45:41 UTC
Since Obama was ALL OVER THE MEDIA trumpeting his plans to DRAMATICALLY DRIVE-UP energy prices, you will be hard-pressed to find EVEN ONE Democrat who is capable of believing he might have any such intention.
[Tar]Naru33
2011-11-15 17:52:05 UTC
I am somewhat confused what you said.earlier in your post. You stated supply needs to be scaled back to increase price, that is correct, but that is not the goal Obama or alternate enegry supporters want. We want more supply so that the prices will decrease.



We want more clean coal, Natural gas, Solar, Wind, Nuclear, and Hydro electric. This way we can decrease oil dependence.





Did you know this was Obama plan when you voted in 2008?



Yes.



Had you known would you have voted differently?



Yes, because I already knew.



Do you think its an appropriate role of government to try and manipulate the energy markets or any markets for that matter?



Yes, unfortunately, private investors are looking out for themselves and to turn a profit. While a lot of people disagree with the government churning up cash to influence the market, this is actually how we get most of our technological breakthroughs. Look up a great deal of the inventions and leaps in science and you will see most had Government money backing it up. If this was not so, it would take longer to achieve these same goals.



Do you think the government should be in the business of subsidizing some business and not others? Isn't this what OWS and the Tea Party calls crony capitalism?



Like I stated before, sometimes the government is needed to influence the market. It definately can be done more efficiently, but nonetheless still necessary.



Obama successfully has doubled the price of energy gas in particular - Did you know most economist say for the US economy to recover gas prices need to be around $2.00 a gallon. Do you think Obama knew that and proceeded with his plan anyway?



What the heck are you talking about, gas haven't been $2.00 for years, I dont think it would have decreased for awhile no matter what he did. The only way gas would possibly have been decreased is if we left out of Afghanistan and Iraq immediately. I am not sure how you are trying to blame him for gas prices....
badmofaux
2011-11-15 18:02:25 UTC
I support nuclear energy as an interim solution while phasing out oil.

Through this process, I would like to see full transparency in the dollar amounts contributed to politicians on both sides of the fence by oil and coal lobbyists and cronies.



If Obama's plan weakens the stranglehold the oil industry has had over our government, I support it, even with a few years of bad side effects. The presence of corporate oil shills in every level of our government is insidious and needs to be stopped. Until that happens, you can count on manipulated gasoline prices, an artificially induced dependency on gasoline and oil products as paid for by government subsidies, affiliated companies of oil interests gaining no-bid military service contracts in nearly every US military exercise, etc. (Don't have figures in front of me, but, I'm pretty sure the no-bid Blackwater/Halliburton contracts were to a bigger tune than 35B).



Personally, I'd love to see the artificial price of gasoline stop and go up to its true market price. As a city dweller and frequent user of public transportation, I don't see why my tax dollars should be "handed out" to drivers in other parts of the country. Isn't that awfully similar to welfare?



People who use gasoline should feel pride in refusing these hand outs and opt to pay the full price.





Edit:

Here's a chart:

http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/tableau-gas-530x578.png

You're fibbin' 'bout the 2008 gas price. Unless you're talking about diesel in the middle of nowhere.
anonymous
2011-11-15 17:47:24 UTC
Oil exploration in Alaska is at it's highest rate in DECADES and North Dakota is rapidly becoming one of the largest oil producing states due to the rate of exploration and production from oil shale. Natural gas prices have dropped to the point where oil companies either flare it off or re inject it. Meanwhile ALL alternative energy sources make up 8% of all US energy. So exactly what WAR are you talking about?
Stalins Ghost
2011-11-15 18:09:58 UTC
I don't know what your advocating.

Hydro is not the same as fossil fuel energy production but it's clean credentials are disputed.

Most countries doing so, subsidize the development of alternative energy production.

Energy prices reflect global demand.



Europe is @ $9 a gallon atm.
Innocent
2011-11-15 17:45:08 UTC
The 550 million that Obama gave to his buddies at Solyndra was more than enough to build solar fields all over this country.



Instead of giving that money to a failing company it could have been used to build solar fields all over the US and provide jobs for people and saved the failing company with purchases of solar equipment from them.



Obama is not for alternative energy he is for lining the pockets of his buddies.



550 Million dollars of tax payer money down the tubes. What a waste that comes from someone who professes to be energy conscious.
B K BUZZARD
2011-11-15 18:23:33 UTC
obama is a dimbulb on energy,,solving this in the US would mean,,more quickly than most believe,

jobs in great quantity,,,,drilling,digging, chopping,exploring for oil,coal,natural gas,

everywhere we can find the goddam stuff, off shore along alaska,california coasts,a collaborative effort with mexican pemex corp,off the texas coast,ditto lousianna,missippi,coal in virginia,southern illinois,france russia,n european nations have been doing for decades

build nuclear power plants,as france ,china, , russia,,and other scandinavian countries have done for decades.

the nukeys need to be safe,as do the other operations,,,govt ought to carefully see that this is done,

damage to the environment ought to be the minumum possible,,,,,,,,,,the need for jobs trumps the possibility of an accident.

green energy production needs to be efficient,,,,and the private business guys need to spend money in R & D,, if anyone can find a way to provide clean n green energy,they can,,proifit incentive

works hand in glove with r n d for a new idea for citizens.

the companies need to revisit global warming,man made global warming,whether human activity impacts climate anomalies,floods,earthquakes,typhoons,etc,revisit means another study,maybe done by universities,asia,european,american,russian,avoiding sloppiness of englands CRU study.



green tec promotion by this administration is nothing more than sops to contributors,reinforcing the party base,campaign contributors,it has from the outset,been thievery calling for jail & orange jumpsuits for those responsible



IF,,,,,,after clear compelling evidence,in the form of concensus among the college brain trusts, businesses,scientists that

man made climate change is occuring,,,obamas main,,& only contribution will have been the

groundwork for clean green tech,,,,,,
?
2011-11-15 17:46:01 UTC
Understand, it's only inexpressive because it's subsidies.



Not just do to Oil subsidies, but also due to the externalization of costs.



Oil companies never pay the true cost of burning fossil fuels, which results in artificially lower prices.



- 17R3W
Iron_Plague
2011-11-15 17:43:11 UTC
Well, I do own 10,800 shares of an "alternative energy" company based in Baltimore. But, to be honest, my stocks in "evil energy" companies have been doing a LOT better.
?
2011-11-15 17:43:43 UTC
LOL go head pollute the ground water for generations to come and be proud of it.

Keep advocating Capitalism which requires an ever expanding population so that you grandchild can curse your being.

Be wasteful as ever as you enjoy the fruit of the suffering of the less fortunate.
anonymous
2011-11-15 17:41:32 UTC
You'll have to provide a link to said documents because at this point this sounds like some Hannity quip. Your claims have zero credibility.
anonymous
2011-11-15 17:41:56 UTC
Nope.
James Smith
2011-11-15 17:41:45 UTC
I did not vote for him.


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