For some people Obamacare is turning out to be an unmitigated disaster. Are you surprised?

Question

Unfortunately stories like the one in the link are becoming more and more common.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/02/19/covered-california-enrollees-complain-about-limited-doctor-choices-nearby/

Answer 1

You are right, some people. Those some are in a minority. The fact is the vast majority of people effected by the PPACA are fine and happy. But like many things in America, the good stuff goes unreported. Till now, see the links.



Something else, I don't think you read that article. The fact that California is limiting the doctors people can see has nothing to do with Obamacare. That is the way the state set up the program.



http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115457/obamacare-victim-florida-happy-she-can-get-real-coverage



Turns out there’s a 61 year-old “life long” Republican – Butch Matthews – in Little Rock, Arkansas who bought a “Silver” plan on the Arkansas exchange (a State-Federal partnership model) earlier this week. In 2014 he expects he’ll save close to $13,000.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2013/10/05/lifelong-republican-buys-obamacare-silver-plan-and-says-im-so-happy-that-this-came-along/



The Obamacare Success Stories

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/23/the-obamacare-success-stories.html



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/03/1243640/-GOP-Biggest-Fear-Occurring-Republicans-Loving-Obamacare

Answer 2

Felonious Monkey: "What about the 30 million Americans who had ABSOLUTELY ZERO ACCESS TO ANY FORM OF HEALTHCARE?!? Did you forget about them?"



They DID have access. They just said that it was too expensive. THEY STILL SAY IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE!!! They are not signing up for Obamacare. The CBO predicts that there will STILL be 30 million without insurance!!! Even if you accept the administrations inflated claim of 3.3 million, that is a failure by anybody's standards.



This Obamacare does almost NOTHING it promised. If it did even half of what it promised, I would be for it. If Barack Obama had done even half of what he promised, I would be all for him. It is not a glitch. It is an unmitigated DISASTER!

Answer 3

I don't agree with that premise, that it is an unmitigated disaster. It had the following positives:

It has lowered healthcare costs especially in Medicare (380 million saved by ACOs), raised healthcare service quality (Value Based Purchasing, 30 day readmission requirements and Hospital Acquired Conditions), and enabled people to get healthcare that could not before, eliminated caps, enabled people 26 or under to stay on their parents plan, helped pay for preventative care for the elderly and eliminated the donut whole for the elderly.



But among other negative things, there will be people that will not be able to go to their regular doctors, and they will need to get on healthcare.gov and find new doctors.

Answer 4

"Unmitigated Disaster" = wow, such sensationalism! The real problem lies with doctors who are refusing to be capped on what they charge. Many doctors, even before ACA wouldn't accept certain insurance, especially HMO's because they didn't like the idea of being capped on what they charged. Whatever happened to charging reasonable rates? I find it ridiculous to go to the doctor and for them to see you for 10-15 minutes when you're feeling under the weather in hopes that your doctor will give you something to ease the discomfort, but tells you to go buy over the counter medication for your ailment, and then charge the insurance companies $200 (not counting the co-pay), I find it ridiculous. This in part is the cause of why our health care costs are so expensive.

Answer 5

Not surprised at all.

I actually think ACA is a step in the right direction, but for the next few years, it's predictably going to be a hot mess. At the same time, the way things have been going, employer-sponsored health insurance costs have almost doubled (180%) in the past decade, so that's also a disaster, though not so easy to see. With the US spending as much on health care as the entire GDP of France, we have no easy out. Disasters have been happening, and disasters are going to continue to happen, even if we dig up Solomon to craft a health care financing system.

The left are, of course, lunatics, and a good number of them liars when it comes to this subject. But it's hard to listen to the complaints from the right, what with their heads solidly buried, whether ostrich-like or in a more proctologic form.

Answer 6

You're trolling us right? I mean, nobody is this immune to irony.



You claim that Obamacare is an "unmitigated disaster" because some people have limited access to doctors.



Think about that for a second.



What about the 30 million Americans who had ABSOLUTELY ZERO ACCESS TO ANY FORM OF HEALTHCARE?!? Did you forget about them?



Thanks to Obamacare these people now have access to lifesaving medical care... some for the first time in their life.

Answer 7

Life expectancy UK = 81

Life expectancy USA= 79.8



Total healthcare spend per capita 2011 (USD)

UK: 3609

USA 8608



The prostate cancer figures are mainly due to lead time bias.

Answer 8

I am not surprised by Obama and the ACA failing people, but I'm surprised that hearing that the exchanges had problems, people did not turn to private insurance to at least look, or check for the exchange with the best coverage, including network, for themselves. 46% of people approve of Obama's job performance today, when the stories are that we will have "smart" roads to track our outings, there is civil war in Ukraine and Syria, and stories of police brutality in the US. Better wake up, everyone!

Answer 9

I'm not surprised. Obama's unaffordable care tax was meant to be a nightmare. It's what the libs wanted, a stupid medical delivery system poorly designed by the left.



And thanks to the idiot Libs and and our stupid president. Obamascum-care will be forcing Americans to pay up to 70 percent of their wages to taxes by 2018. 70 percent.

Answer 10

isn't odd that it is WORKING in states that haven't done everything to obstruct and destroy the line. when you have the insurance commissioner bragging to doing what he can to ensure it doesn't work for the people in his state you cannot blame the law when it is not working

Answer 11

Well, like, it's helping two or three people, so the five hundred can go to hell, right?



Progressive!

Answer 12

uhh.. When ONE among you is LEFT OUT-- it's an unmitigated disaster-- by definition.

Answer 13

Five year cancer survival rate for Prostate cancer in the US - 91.9%.

Five year cancer survival rate for prostate cancer in the UK - 47.7%.



Are we ready for government health insurance?

Answer 14

No

Answer 15

No, not really.