Do people think that if a government boondoggle doesn't "increase the deficit" that it is FREE!!?

Question

I couldn't help but notice that little Max Bunkus was all giddy about the CBO saying his boondoggle wouldn't "increase the deficit". All that says is that the CBO projects that massive tax increases will be enough to cover the cost of the boondoggle. And government estimates of additional tax revenue are always way off to the high side, as they never sufficiently consider the changed behaviors of productive people who are now paying more in tax.

So I guess my question is, are people really that ignorant?

Answer 1

Some people really are which is how we ended up with 0bama in the oval office, but people are waking up to the stench of 0bama's corruption

Answer 2

The real boondoggle here is all the manipulation that went into that calculation. The CBO uses a 10-year window for its analysis. Knowing this, the Democrats rigged the initial 10-years of the health care bill to create the illusion that it is "deficit neutral." Notice that the tax increases and cuts to Medicare happen right away, but the expensive part of the program doesn't kick in until July, 2013. That gives 4 years of revenue before they start spending any real money. Which, in turn, makes the first 10 years look like it lowers the deficit. Beyond that, however, the deficits skyrocket.



Not only that, but prominent Democrats have carved out certain "exceptions" for their own States. From Friday's Wall Street Journal:



A central feature of the Baucus bill is the vast expansion of state Medicaid programs.



Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is worried about losing his seat next year, worked out a deal by which the federal government will pay all of his home state's additional Medicaid expenses for the next five years.



Another revenue raising feature of the Bill is a proposal to tax high end "Cadillac" insurance plans. Sen. Chuck Schumer didn't want a lot of angry overtaxed New Yorkers on his hands, so he and other similarly situated Democrats carved out a deal by which the threshold for this tax will be higher in their states. If you live in Kentucky, you get taxed at $21,000. If you live in Massachusetts you don't get taxed until $25,000.



Mr. Baucus will also pay for his bill by socking it to pharmaceutical companies, on the principle that drug companies are filthy rich and should have to contribute to health care. But New Jersey Senator Bob Mendez is concerned because 15 of the world's largest 20 Pharma companies have facilities in New Jersey. Thus Mr. Menendez's quiet deal for a $1 billion tax credit for companies investing in drug R&D.



Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow and Massachusetts Senator John Kerry included $5 billion in the bill for a reinsurance program designed to defray the medical costs of union members.

Answer 3

I am afraid they are...There are so many anti republican partisans that do nothing but hate because they think they know what they are talking about or they really are communists. I met many hippies in the 60;s that were all for communism, but didn't worry about the dictators.



The ignorant today cannot see how these looters are trampling over The People. And they are not smart enough to see that the government will trample them too.



The politicians give them just enough money and a bunch of lies to get them to follow. Sheep to a slaughter...

Answer 4

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/08/eveningnews/main5372668.shtml?tag=stack

How Health Care Bill Would Net $81B

"...congressional number-crunchers now say the $829 billion price tag for the Finance Committee's bill would be more than offset by fees on drugmakers, taxes on top-dollar insurance plans and trims to Medicare."





All they're doing is playing shell games with money. They're not raising taxes, they're raising fees. And taxes. What, exactly is "top dollar?"

Answer 5

Yes they think everything done by government is free. The government wants to tax existing insurance plans along with things like wheelchair and heart valve manufacturers. Well guess who those cost increases get passed to genius liberals.

Answer 6

There will NEVER be a shortage of people who accept this administration at "face value" and believe that these "people" really CARE about them.

Even if they push this down our throats with all the fine print, there will ALWAYS be those hidden and secret "addendum's" Congress will ATTACH to a totally unrelated Bill. These can be ANYTHING from "changes"/"revisions" to Tax increases.

This WILL end up being another "Oh gee, sorry 'bout that public, we UNDERESTIMATED..........." Watch.

Answer 7

I believe many of them are. Too bad that even if this legislation remains budget neutral, which has never happened in the past, the VAT they are thinking about will hit every last one of us square in the pocket. A tax is a tax.

Answer 8

Other than the already announced fact that Obama will let the tax cuts on the $200k and up crowd expire, what new income taxes have been announced?



Last ? you were right, this one you are just making assumptions, and are wrong, until proven otherwise.



Edit: Americans are already paying as much in taxes per person for health care as those with Universal Care. Wake up and realize if the healthcare industry wasn't subsidized you could have universal health care without raising income tax.

Answer 9

Remember an "Entitlement Kid" like Obama thinks the only cost of an entitlement is filling out the paperwork correctly.

Answer 10

I haven't heard anyone say that the plan was going to be free. Why are you bashing them for being fiscally responsible?



You people will never be happy.

Answer 11

Of course it doesn't increase the deficit. All the money materializes out of a jelly-bean field.

Peace

Answer 12

Since when have your ilk cared about the people's well being?

Answer 13

It seems so...............we will still be paying and so will future generations. The reality is, we cannot afford it, period.

Answer 14

Idiot liberal drones believe it to be, OR only the rich will pay for it.