Question:
Isn't it laughable the way Labour supporters are trying to blame an old woman for their leaders incompetence ?
2010-04-29 03:20:16 UTC
What's bigoted about asking a question ? Do you really expect an old woman from Rochdale ( or anywhere else for that matter ) to be able to debate on equal terms to a professional career politician who's managed to snake his way to the very top ? Do you expect the same woman to be 100% PC when it's a concept that was only invented in the later part of her life ?

Gordon Brown showed his utter contempt for the general public , not just her but you you and you . He has shown his true colours , it's time to WAKE up people .
Fourteen answers:
nlv
2010-04-29 03:27:57 UTC
Indeed it is, the lady tried to ask a question about what concerned her. She is not a 'specialist' just a member of the UK electorate.



Gordon could have easily said anything other than 'bigoted' - which is used as a term of insult & dismissal nowadays.



It does go to show how out of touch brown & labour are even with their own grass roots supporters and the contempt they have for the UK electorate.



@ eagles why has the discrepancey between rich & poor increased to an all time high under labour?
Kid B
2010-04-29 04:25:57 UTC
She wasn't being bigoted at all. She was just expressing her concerns on immigration, and that's fair enough considering the number of people who are unemployed at the moment. The other party leaders proabably have similar views on some of the members of the public. Whether or not they express those views is another matter.



The main thing here was that Gordon Brown showed how terrible he is at judging some situations. Gillian Duffy was actually quite pleased with his answers, and they seemed to get on quite well. His words afterwards, as you say, showed utter contempt with the public. This is the end of Gordon Brown, and it has certainly made this election even more unpredictable and exciting
Rob Roy
2010-04-29 05:50:32 UTC
Your question generated some of the most ignorant (in the strict meaning of the word) if not silly answers I've seen in a long time, fortunately they were not bigoted at least not much ! To claim that this Government have prevented the rich getting richer clearly shows that someone isn't keeping up to date with what's been happening since Labour became the Government.
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Invisible Pink Unicorn
2010-04-29 06:27:15 UTC
Oh come on, it was blooming hilarious! And it's nice of you to ask a question, then try to insult everyone who's answer isn't in line with your own opinion. Clearly the woman was pretty bigoted, it's not such a terrible thing to say. I agree with the connotations of the world 'flocked' which Frogspawn has said.
Herbie
2010-04-29 03:38:07 UTC
She may not be able to debate on equal terms, but she certainly won that round. He had no answer to why East Asians were being given houses in preference to British people, not even a denial. I can't see anything politically incorrect about asking a simple question based on what she has experienced in her town. Political correctness should not extend to being compelled to ignore or distort the truth as you see it. He had no answer to her question about the national debt. He was too nice to be true when talking to her and within a few minutes showed himself to be totally two faced. What he showed himself good at was presenting a wonderful front to he public. Unfortunately for him we also saw the back yesterday.
the eagles
2010-04-29 03:43:56 UTC
I think he is only Humane like us all and at the end of the day poster its not just Maggie Thatchers mess he Mr Brown has to try to sort out with regards the Banking mess Jobs he also has to try sort out the mess Tony Blair left behind and this tkes time..Now the Banking is under control..shall also get better..and

that looked on its knees not so long ago..Also old people with winter fuel allowance are more so helped under Brown..the only gripe i have is to much Immigration in UK now..But because i dont want tories back in power as the mess they left destroyed many a man ive met now many even dead because unempoyment in time plays on the mind..which then adds to drink etc



But Brown took over a mess..you have to give the man time..also who wants tories into power

i for one cant get over what Thatcher done to this country and it still hasnt recovered

or under Blair reason he left was because he knew the country was in a mess..Brown was left with this mess

Now the Banks are on the recovery..old people are better off with Brown..it takes time..

ill vote Labour because i dont want another Thatcher in power and always shall vote for the ordinary man woman in the street...Id like to say one thing though Brown is a Scot is this the sole reason some from South wont vote Labour ? Me thinks so..myself im a Scot and have voted Labour all my days even when an Englishman was in charge.. As for tories they are only for the rich..in fact any tories came to my area they would be chased out...Lib Dems they just are a mini-tory..SNP Scottish National Party nevr have had my vote..Labour is the only party to stop tories and the rich get richer REMEMBER.
COGNISCENT
2010-04-29 04:46:08 UTC
The entire sorry affair is rather reminiscent - to those of us of a particular vintage - of the moment during the General Election campaign of 1983 when the venerable Margaret Thatcher was the guest on a Friday evening edition of the old BBC-TV programme "Nationwide" and viewers were invited to put their questions to her as the Prime Minister of the day.



It happened that the last person to appear on screen and put a question was a lady named Diane Gould and she asked about the sinking by the Royal Navy of an Argentinean ship - the "General Belgrano" - during the Falklands War of 1982, which Mrs. Thatcher liked to claim as being in some way symbolic of her personality.



Mrs. Gould asked Mrs. Thatcher about suggestions which had been made ever since the attack on the General Belgrano that the ship had actually been sailing away from an area declared an 'exclusion zone' by the Royal Navy and the sinking had been gratuitous.



Mrs. Thatcher was visibly furious and became more enraged as Mrs. Gould proceeded calmly to emphasise the point she was making; the presenter - Sue Lawley - brought the programme to an end.



Margaret Thatcher was reported to have fumed at her staff and vowed not ever again to return to the BBC studios to participate in any other programme that had a similar format and she was true to her word.



What lessons ought we to draw from the equivalent of the 'Diane Gould moment' as experienced by Gordon Brown following his original meeting of Wednesday, 28th April 2010 with a lady by the name of Gillian Duffy?



It ought perhaps to be borne in mind that Gordon Brown is a former Television presenter and programme Producer and would have been well aware of the manner in which video film can be edited to distort and mis-represent a situation.



Assuming for a moment that his radio microphone had not helpfully caught the words he used in his car following the encounter of that morning, the evening News would probably have featured the item as a case of Gordon Brown being challenged about an issue by Mrs. Duffy and not having an answer to the question, which was precisely the point he made to his adviser in the car as they were leaving.



What do we learn from the recording and the actions of Gordon Brown in the aftermath of hearing what had been broadcast to the nation?



Gordon Brown loathes prejudice of any kind - it would appear that his experiences throughout his life have taught him to approach people with respect in the first instance, which tends to suggest that he is genuinely concerned about their needs and feelings and not simply adopting a facade for the camera.



Gordon Brown would have been acutely aware that the Prime Minister of a nation cannot appear to have been declamatory about an individual citizen and he moved quickly to apologise to Mrs. Duffy for any distress that was caused and to express that same sorrow in person that she had been rather demeaned in public.



Gordon Brown could only have formed his opinion of Gillian Duffy in the two-and-a-half minutes during which she asked questions or made comments about at least four different subjects.



The fact that Gordon Brown apologised for his personal opinion coming into the public domain does not mean that the comments Mrs. Duffy made ought to be regarded as becoming suddenly sacred - she did manage to link a supposed lack of provision of amenities in the local area to false claims made by people who did not have an entitlement and associated those remarks with her observation about the "flocking" to Britain of 'eastern Europeans'.



What was she suggesting? Where was the evidential basis for what she appeared to be trying to say?



It is bound to be true of David Cameron and Nick Clegg and all other political leaders in every corner of the globe that they make statements of a similar type about people they meet - they would not be human beings if that was not the case.



It is what everyone does - we are forthcoming in private about our true feelings not only regarding strangers but friends and even our immediate family, safe in the knowledge that there are not stray pieces of sound equipment in the vicinity.



The controversy that has been generated does alight upon a fundamental point - the right of any of us to a private conversation, including public figures holding high political office.



It did not have to be the case that Gordon Brown was in the car speaking to his political assistants about Gillian Duffy; what would we feel if he had been discussing the health of his children with his wife without realising that it was becoming a matter of public record?



We ought not to be too loud in our condemnation of Gordon Brown - provided that we believe he did anything wrong in giving an opinion, which is debatable if Gillian Duffy is to be lauded for the same reason - for an event that we mortify us if it occurred in our own lives.
2010-04-29 03:34:41 UTC
i am a racist and a bigot, only because i ask about the questions that matter to most indigenous people. that's what people say to likes of me. well i really do not care anymore what im labelled.as the terms racist and bigot , are added to anyone asking questions about immigration. well i believe we have to stop Black and White immigration.SO IF THAT MAKES ME A RACIST SO BE IT .
2010-04-29 03:27:18 UTC
People tend to act as their leader acts - so his cohorts will naturally look to blame someone else - that would be Gordon Brown's natural reaction INDEED it was his natural reaction - he tried to blame Sue.



The British people need a Prime Minister that can be TRUSTED and in whom they can have CONFIDENCE - Gordon Brown fails on both points.
Syd
2010-04-29 03:27:53 UTC
Here is the question:



"These East Europeans - where are they all flocking from?"



Apart from the fact that she answered her own question, the use of "flocking" rather implies she feels they are sub-human and coming over like migratory animals. Brown obviously took exception to that and so do I. We allow the far-right to dominate how we talk about other human beings far too much. If you want to discuss immigration, it should be done with a little less contempt.



And please stop telling us to wake up in capitals. Why do all far-right posters put that? Do they really think we are asleep because we don't share their (and here comes that word) bigotry?



- Oh dear, another fascist has told me I'm an idiot whose brain doesn't function properly. I'm heartbroken.



"Flocking" - as in sheep, birds and not humans.
2010-04-29 03:26:53 UTC
Still undecided which way to vote then, eh?
2010-04-29 03:31:25 UTC
Well when a person is complaining about Eastern Europeans coming into the country then sorry but she is bigoted, the implication is that they shouldn't come in but others can, somewhat racist don't you think and what is wrong with calling a bigot a bigot?
2010-04-29 03:22:34 UTC
I don't think they are.


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